Finnegans Wake

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  • 29 May 2015 at 11:01 am #7155

    jasonp
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    I know McCarthy has said Ulysses is one of his favorite books. He said Suttree was his Ulysses. I wonder if Finnegans Wake has been an influence on his work. What made me think of it is this news story about how the new Chinese translation of Finnegans Wake is taking off in China as a surprise bestseller http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/feb/05/finnegans-wake-china-james-joyce-hit?CMP=share_btn_twc


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    29 May 2015 at 12:18 pm #7157

    Rick Wallach
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    This is too wonderful for words. It had to be written in ideograms.


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    29 May 2015 at 12:22 pm #7158

    Richard L.
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    Re: “I know McCarthy has said Ulysses is one of his favorite books. He said Suttree was his Ulysses….”

    No, I don’t think that McCarthy ever said that SUTTREE was his ULYSSES himself, but it has certainly been said in this forum. If he did say that, please tell me where.

    Thanks for that link about FINNEGANS WAKE. In a way, it is not surprising that this would be a favorite in China to anyone who knows about the traditions of the I Ching, or about the recent scientific studies of order arising from random chaos.

    I recently read SYNC: HOW ORDER EMERGES FROM CHAOS IN THE UNIVERSE, NATURE, and DAILY LIFE by scientist Steven Strogatz, which goes along with what the scientists at the Santa Fe Institute are saying. Strogatz is a Harvard and MIT grad, now teaching applied mathematics at Cornell.

    As Strogatz points out, it hasn’t been very long ago that what is now scientifically proven was considered pseudo-science. The universal force that makes oscillators go into synch works for both animate and inanimate objects.

    As for FINNEGANS WAKE, you can’t beat the four volume study of it done by John P. Anderson, whose study of ULYSSES, FINDING JOY IN JOYCE, resides on my most-beloved shelf.

    Edit: I see where Anderson has added two more volumes to his study. There are now six.


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    29 May 2015 at 5:37 pm #7163

    jasonp
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    Thanks for the heads up about FINDING JOY IN JOYCE.

    As for the McCarthy interview, I’ll try to find it, but I could be wrong about his quoting that.


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    30 May 2015 at 4:13 pm #7165

    kottage
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    Richard L.: As for FINNEGANS WAKE, you can’t beat the four volume study of it done by John P. Anderson, whose study of ULYSSES, FINDING JOY IN JOYCE, resides on my most-beloved shelf.

    Edit: I see where Anderson has added two more volumes to his study. There are now six.

    Thanks for this, Richard. According to Amazon this series is actually up to ten volumes now! Easily 4000 pages. I’m headed to Dublin for Bloomsday in a couple of weeks–wish I’d heard about Anderson earlier. But then I’ve known about Finnegans Wake for years and I haven’t managed that yet.


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    31 May 2015 at 11:13 am #7171

    Richard L.
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    You’ll enjoy FINDING JOY IN JOYCE. Anderson goes line by line, chapter by chapter and he digs deep and finds entertaining literary patterns.

    People seeking insight to McCarthy’s THE ORCHARD KEEPER should read John P. Anderson’s THE SOUND AND THE FURY IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN: WILLIAM FAULKNER’S THE SOUND AND THE FURY AND THE GARDEN OF EDEN MYTH in which he turns both Faulkner and the biblical myth into a rather scientific parable about the fall of consciousness into animal man. Eye-opening stuff, at least it was for these old eyes.


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    01 Jun 2015 at 7:31 am #7176

    kottage
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    Richard–that sounds great, thanks. The title reminds me of Anthony Burgess’s ReJoyce, which was exuberant more than anything. Anderson sounds a lot more thorough. There’s also a book of critical essays out there edited by Clive Hart and someone else that devotes an essay to each chapter of Ulysses–I liked that a lot.


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