Reading of The Passenger in Santa Fe set for August

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  • 02 Aug 2015 at 10:14 pm #7411

    MisterBritt
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    Ash: Original music by John McCarthy. As in John Francis? His son?

    https://soundcloud.com/ohnranciscarthy


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    06 Aug 2015 at 4:38 am #7427

    Birne
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    So? Anybody been there or heard anything?


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    06 Aug 2015 at 8:50 am #7428

    Birne
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    a few comments of someone from yesterday’s audience as posted on Twitter:

    “to be published next year”

    ” It goes pretty heavy into the philosophy and aesthetics of math and physics through one of the characters.”

    “The story of a young female mathematician and her psychiatrist in a mental hospital. Deep, philosophical conversations on beauty, math, physics, the bomb, and much more. Sounds really interesting from the little I heard. Video of last night’s talk/reading should eventually be posted”


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    08 Aug 2015 at 1:29 am #7431

    adrianb
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    Birne: “to be published next year”

    ” It goes pretty heavy into the philosophy and aesthetics of math and physics through one of the characters.”

    “The story of a young female mathematician and her psychiatrist in a mental hospital. Deep, philosophical conversations on beauty, math, physics, the bomb, and much more.

    From the description it sounds like a very different kind of book from McCarthy. Influenced, no doubt, by his long and close association with all of those wonderful physicists and mathematicians at the Santa Fe Institute and the work they do there.

    The “to be published next year” is disappointing. I think we were all hoping for publication later this year.


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    08 Aug 2015 at 1:34 am #7432

    Toejac
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    Hey folks so as promised I attended and recorded the whole thing. I also met McCarthy briefly, shook his hand and astute as he is he saw that I was near stone drunk thus I gave him my solemn promise not to puke during the conference. I’ll post the youtube links tomorrow as soon as I’m done uploading them.

    I was also this close to stealing the manuscript afterwards, all I had to do was reach out and take it, but being the dumbass I am I just snapped a picture. Wasn’t till later that I realized I could have just nabbed it and walked out. Sadness.


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    08 Aug 2015 at 2:31 am #7434

    Birne
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    adrianb: From the description it sounds like a very different kind of book from McCarthy. Influenced, no doubt, by his long and close association with all of those wonderful physicists and mathematicians at the Santa Fe Institute and the work they do there.

    Yeah, I’m baffled too. But don’t forget that the read passages were hand-picked for that occasion, could be misleading…


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    08 Aug 2015 at 2:36 am #7435

    Birne
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    08 Aug 2015 at 8:08 am #7436

    Richard L.
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    Thanks for that link.

    Throughout the night the readings and dialogue went on, dropping names and phrases such as Feynman diagrams, Kurt Gödel, subatomic particles, collisions, weighted routes, equations, variations, and reality.

    But the word “metaphor” could act as the code word for the night: the nature of using something to describe something else. In the case of McCarthy’s work: literature to search for scientific, philosophical, and theological meaning. In the case of Drake’s work: aesthetic and mathematical connections pointing to larger strands of meaning that transcend and conjoin computation and contemplation.

    McCarthy stated it well. In a story he conveyed about a scientist in an audio clip, he said, “He didn’t have a language yet. But one thing he understood is that one thing can be another thing.”

    Wow. I’ve always seen Godel in McCarthy’s mysticism, that only the system outside the system can explain the system. And lately, by some synchronicity, my reading has made me aware of deeper metaphors in Plato than I had previously imagined. Math and music are metaphors for the whole of it.


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    08 Aug 2015 at 10:22 am #7437

    Toejac
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    Please do me a favor and don’t repost these. I’m gonna take em down after a week or two.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDFcLE8bt6E

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgJh-f4rHzs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBsIeD8Q2zQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e5zxuZi1ik

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO9jalTC3ps


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    08 Aug 2015 at 1:55 pm #7440

    Richard L.
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    Wow again. Thanks for giving us the video. I wonder why the novel is appearing in two different volumes. I’d much rather have one long novel, all at once.


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