The Counselor

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  • 02 Oct 2012 at 6:25 am #2112

    Ken
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    Oedipa Maas is exactly how I’ve been feeling since the spec script came out, and I thought about that just last night. If the spec script is not authentic, then someone is making a lot of effort, taking a lot of time, involving a lot of people to — what?– just to pull an elaborate prank on me, or us, here; we would the target, since, under normal circumstances, who else would dwell so long on a spec script that is not, say, a pop culture thing, like Harry Potter, or the next movie by a cult director, like Woody Allen or Terrence Malick?

    If it’s a spoof by any of us or even by McCarthy himself (especially if by McCarthy himself), then it’s funny; if it’s seriously authentic, then it’s scary.


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    02 Oct 2012 at 9:39 am #2113

    Ken
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    Here’s an article from the entertainment press from a few weeks ago, referring to Cameron Diaz’s character as “Malkina” and showing a photo of Diaz sporting a fake cheetah tattoo on her neck and down her back.


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    03 Oct 2012 at 3:42 am #2117

    Anonymous

    See my post from July 11, 2012:

    I can tell you right now it’s authentic. 100% McCarthy only.


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    03 Oct 2012 at 5:15 am #2118

    Anonymous

    Also, I think the script is a master work.


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    03 Oct 2012 at 6:39 am #2119

    cantona
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    On the question of: McCarthy: true or false? I picked up a copy of Tom Stoppard’s Arcadia today and was amused by the following:

    Bernard: Yes. One of my colleagues believed he had found an unattributed short story by D. H. Lawrence, and he analysed it on his home computer, most interesting, perhaps you remember the paper?

    Valentine: Not really. But I often sit with my eyes closed and it doesn’t necessarily mean I’m awake.

    Bernard: Well, by comparing sentence structures, and so forth, this chap showed that there was ninety per cent chance that the story had indeed been written by the same person as Women in Love. To my inexpressible joy, one of your maths mob was able to show that on the same statistical basis there was a ninety per cent chance that Lawrence also wrote the Just William books and much of the previous day’s Brighton and Hove Argus.

     

    Glad to be of help.


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    03 Oct 2012 at 12:29 pm #2120

    Mike
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    Stew,

    Please, don’t be so “whale-tongued”.  Enlighten us all.

    “to see value in the valuable is quite significant to me. I am resting on that point.”

    I’d like to see the “significance” as well.  Lead me to the light.  What are “we”, the collective, missing?  Or what am I missing?  Your “rest” is preventing us from appreciating this McCarthy narrative.

     

    Mike


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    03 Oct 2012 at 4:48 pm #2123

    Anonymous

    Unfortunately, I don’t know the answer. But perhaps if one can see genius in it, it’s worth a second look for another? I’m willing to bet “that script floating around” was written solely by McCarthy.


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    04 Oct 2012 at 7:22 pm #2130

    I don’t care whether it’s authentic or not.  If the script I first saw months ago is still the same one that’s floating around now,  it’s lousy IMHO.


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    04 Oct 2012 at 10:11 pm #2133

    Anonymous

    Google Alerts hasn’t been working for me lately, but now it’s assaulting my inbox with a backlog of updates. Many of them feature creepy telephoto screenshots of the cast of The Counselor. Maybe it’s time to take a break from “Cormac McCarthy” notifications for awhile. However, I have gleaned that Diaz/Malkina filmed a scene in a bed with a cheetah and Cruz/Laura filmed a scene in a red dress in an airport. Very similar scenes occur in the script, right-down to Laura wearing a red dress. The names, the tattoo, the cast talking about their roles in ways that corroborate the script. Just a few days ago I wouldn’t have said one way or the other but Stew and his fish and chips are looking pretty safe.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the script is edited or some stuff is omitted though. There are a lot typos and the formatting is weird. Perhaps it’s some hurriedly typed version of whatever McCarthy clanked out on his typewriter. I also wonder if the beginning was the same one Cruz saw. I got a chuckle when she said the first three pages blew her away with how new they felt.

    I didn’t think the script was great either, but at least it got me to pick up 2666 again.


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    04 Oct 2012 at 10:25 pm #2134

    Mike
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    If it’s McCarthy or not, fine.  My interest lies in finding the genius in the script.  I need some enlightening.  Please, help.

     

    Mike


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