The Hermit in BM

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  • 13 Nov 2014 at 9:20 pm #6057

    efscerbo
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    Hey Peter,

    That’s awesome. Very very cool. Doing some digging of my own, I found a reference for it in Frye’s paper “Blood Meridian and the Poetics of Violence” in The Cambridge Companion to Cormac McCarthy, pg. 118.

    One more question: What in God’s name ever made you think of that? I have (as I imagine everyone on this forum has) read that damn epilogue more times than I can count and “burial scene” never once entered my mind. Is there something in particular that triggered that for you?

    Many thanks again,
    Ed


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    13 Nov 2014 at 11:17 pm #6063

    Glass
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    Ed, it’s been awhile. I think I was probably thinking of the bones and the man opening up the earth and releasing the fire, reanimating the place. I may have also been thinking of the kid trapped in the jakes with the judge as a contrast. Confinement and release. An escape from the judge’s labyrinth. Death and rebirth. Return of the same. The release of the fire upward in a place of death also nicely reverses the downward trajectory of the falling stars at the kid’s birth on the first page. While thinking about it a little more this week it occurred to me that in TOK the book opens and closes in a cemetery, and in Suttree there is a cemetery reference on the first page and then there are the hounds on the last page and the final words “Fly them,” which is possibly analogous at least in some small way to the release/rise of the fire in the BM Epilogue. And there’s the literal raising of the dead out of the caves at the end of COG. So there might be a pattern there that recurs in BM. Those are my rambling thoughts on it. Thanks for asking and also for the Frye reference.


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    14 Nov 2014 at 2:07 pm #6068

    efscerbo
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    Hmm, that’s interesting Peter. So, does that mean something like: If the kid is “confined” in the jakes and then there’s a burial scene which functions as a “release”, then “Death is an escape”? (From what, who knows? The judge? This world? Life?) That sounds awfully gnostic to my ear. Perhaps it is a last judgment of sorts? A raising of the dead at the end of days? I’ll think on this. Thanks yet again.


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    18 Nov 2014 at 7:54 pm #6096

    efscerbo
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    Just a quick question to those more learned than I: Wondering if anyone’s ever connected the “machine to make the machine” line with the opening of Deleuze and Guattari’s Anti-Oedipus, where they mention “machines driving other machines, machines being driven by other machines”. I don’t really understand what they’re talking about, so it may be completely unrelated to what’s going on in the hermit scene. But the line resonated with me, so I thought I’d ask.

    Thanks in advance,
    Ed


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    11 Oct 2016 at 6:56 pm #8614

    mother_he
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    Did McCarthy anticipate something like Roko’s Basilisk in Blood Meridian? It’s a thought experiment that makes a sort of materialistic gnosticism plausible.
    (“plausible” I don’t really buy into this futurist/singularity idiocy but I think McCarthy had something like this in mind.)

    Background: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html

    “…when God made man the devil was at his elbow. A creature that can do anything. Make a machine. And a machine to make the machine. And evil that can run itself a thousand years, no need to tend it.”

    A lot to dig into here. Applying Heidegger’s ideas about technology is also interesting.


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