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  • 21 Dec 2017 at 9:55 pm #10019

    mff9200
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    I would more than likely disagree with the “politics” of most(and I am okay with that), but I think it is necessary that folks share each other’s approaches to stories, as opposed to just publishing it implicitly or explicitly in a paper or in a post. No harm. Just as long as Candy and Richard aren’t breaking each other’s stones for the hell of it.

    Yes, Rick, your post got a hearty laugh out of me.

    School and Finals finished at 11:40 today, so I sat at my desk and read The European Journal of American Studies that Rick linked above. Yes, as usual, I didn’t care much for a few of the political essays, however, I really enjoyed the approach Andrew Estes used to read The Road. Very novel, and refreshing: he explored the Modern history of cannibalism and “nature”. Pretty cool. What is beyond me is how cannibalism during the Russian Famines are ignored. Every time I read The Road I can’t help but recollecting those pics from 1921 of the married, Russian peasant couple selling human body parts on a picnic table.

    Also, I enjoyed the piece by Christina Bieber Lake, she actually presented a healthy take on religion in The Road.

    Mike


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    22 Dec 2017 at 3:40 am #10021

    cantona
    Member

    Yep, it’s important not to be too earnest. I must admit, I am no fan of that ‘I’m Spartacus, you’re Spartacus’ social media guff, whatever the cause.


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    22 Dec 2017 at 10:37 am #10022

    mff9200
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    Cantona,

    Every 2/3 years I read “Public Opinion”: it becomes obvious why written&visual media and political parties love to see us riot and would even love more to see a civil war. Academia on the other hand loves the noble fight for invisible causes, not mattering who loses a career or is shut-up and labeled a “fascist”.

    I think the “Spartacus” approach to internet discussion is what social media outlets want.

    Mike


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    22 Dec 2017 at 10:56 am #10024

    Clement
    Member

    Sausage fest? Here, in the church of the mendicant sycophants to Mr. Sausage Fest himself? No, I admire me a woman who will wade into the male peacockery of Mr. McCarthy’s ouvre. No one is trying to muzzle the Manx or abridge her postings. Some just want some basic decency. It’s tiresome. And my plaint is not confined to this thread and the Richard badgering. Actually, it’s more about the loathesome Lee Driver thread were she feels (of course she does, all me all the time) the need to relate and incident about an unnamed Forum participant of which we can pretty much guess who. I mean, was that really fucking necessary on an In Memoriam thread? That person, if I am correct, feels Lee’s passing just as much as Candy.


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    22 Dec 2017 at 1:19 pm #10025

    Candy Minx
    Member

    That’s a good point Clement. I should not have posted those anecdotes from Lee Driver in the memorandum thread. I was not being sensitive and I was just not thinking straight. I did feel a lot of pain and emotions and I should have edited that conversation out for a different time. I regret sharing that there. When Lee and I were talking about it…it wasn’t in a malicious manner. I don’t think Lee meant it maliciously….and I know I didn’t. I don’t feel malicious to anyone here…but the conversation was more about how things go down…and honestly…he had us both laughing about it. I’m not naive about having ideas and ways of speaking that bother some people. I do my best to homogenize myself here at the forum. I really do. And I have grown over the years. There was no sense that either Lee or I disliked the guys who had email campaigns or rotten feelings towards me. I’m not sure why he wanted to talk about but it seemed more like the kind of discussion I have found to be common when meeting people in real life after spending a lot of time in online book forums. It’s very common to do a kind of “after-game” or “debriefing” about the participants we meet in these web boards.

    I want to note that before I wrote that anecdote…it was in response to two people writing and saying that Lee was charitable…it was not hard to miss that the suggestion was he was just being charitable to me and visiting. I thought that was a low blow in the memorandum…and I thought I guess these guys want to talk about this and it was a dig against me. We all have our own personal definition of badgering. I am direct rather than passive-agressive.

    So…my decision to discuss Lee’s charitableness was insensitive…but it was in response…in grief…to the posts suggesting he was just being charitable to me. I thought that was an attempt to sneak in a an insult in a passive-egressive manner. Maybe I was wrong.

    I am sorry to have been insensitive in that memorandum. I feel terrible. I hope those people who posted that Lee was “charitable” will also learn a lesson about themselves and how they present themselves here.


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    22 Dec 2017 at 1:42 pm #10026

    Candy Minx
    Member

    You know…I went back and looked at that thread. And someone has deleted their comment about Lee being charitable. There were a couple of people who said that…but one was deleted. And I think for me, that shows me my intuition and feeling it was something malicious to me was correct. I guess they felt bad about it or that it wasn’t so subtle after-all since I responded.

    I removed that specific anecdote from Taos with Lee from that thread. I believe it was worth sharing with others here…however I wish I had done so in a different setting.


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    22 Dec 2017 at 1:54 pm #10027

    Candy Minx
    Member

    And Clement…it was not me who called this joint a sausage fest. It was during a bbq in Memphis for a conference and we had gone out to eat down on Beale Street. There were a bunch of us…..and a woman who was a student doing her masters but just attending the conference…not presenting… said she doesn’t follow or post here….because it’s a sausage fest. We were with some guys and gals from around the world. One of my pals from Australia said he hadn’t realized that some women might feel that way and it was humbling to him. In a good way. And the women at the table were all like, “Yep”. Some of whom had been active participants at times in the past.

    It’s not supposed to be an insult or a guilt thing…it’s sharing how something might feel different for other people. It might not feel like that for some of our participants. It doesn’t mean anyone is sexist or racist or homophobic. I don’t especially claim to know what it “means” or if it even matters. It was funny and humbling for those of us at the table.

    The idea that when we share what we are thinking or feeling and it gets characterized as “badgering” or “loghorea” or anything…is the part that is so not cool. It’s not that it’s hurtful…it’s I can not explain…because then you boys will be all pissed off all over again.

    I am a good sport for the most part. I can laugh most of the stuff off. Years ago…someone was pissed with me and I had posted a picture of a cool purse I had. It had the car on it from DEATH PROOF silkscreened on it. And later…this person posted…”by the way Candy Your death proof purse sucks”

    I’ll tell you…my husband and I have quoted that for years. It’s been years because I had that purse in 2007. When we have a discussion sometimes we’ll just ay “By the way Candy your death proof purse sucks.

    And this week….we have been saying “A polite request: give it a fucking break” and we have been dying. Everyone I work with has been howling with laughter at that one.

    We come here…and we take a risk…maybe we will hit on something profound…maybe it will be a bunch of hot air. It’s a risk. Maybe it will be fun. Or funny. (btw Rick funniest thing I’ve read in ages your comment…Stagg and I were dying, touche)

    Here is what the forum is for me…full disclosure…”philosophical truth or dare”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J_KaLmNMYY


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    22 Dec 2017 at 6:38 pm #10028

    mff9200
    Member

    Candy,

    “A sausage fest”? What makes it a “sausage fest”? Males being present? The term “sausage fest” seems to be such a pejorative term. What would these women like the McCarthy Forum to be? Really, and I’m not being a smart-ass.

    I have been busy with alot of other things in life over the past few years, but I always check in on the Forum to read what friends are writing and to see what new things are popping-up in the world of McCarthy. I don’t know how the forum could be any different.

    What are your suggestions on changing “the sausage”-presence on the Forum?

    Mike


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    22 Dec 2017 at 7:14 pm #10029

    Rick Wallach
    Keymaster

    Patties instead of links maybe?


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    22 Dec 2017 at 7:47 pm #10030

    cantona
    Member

    Veggie Sausage Fest perhaps.


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