Who are the Gilenos?

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  • 13 Jun 2014 at 3:02 pm #5507


    Hi Peter,

    Much obliged for the references. I’ll try to find that book and look through it. And I really liked the Chambers quote you pulled on the “Tidbits” thread. Very cool!

    Thanks again.

    09 Jul 2015 at 4:29 pm #7322


    During the massacre in Chapter 12 it says that “There were in the camp a number of Mexican slaves and these ran forth calling out in spanish…” That the Gilenos enslaved Mexicans is an indication that they weren’t peaceful but rather were the type of Indians the Mexican authorities would have wanted Glanton to go after.

    10 Jul 2015 at 2:02 pm #7324

    Richard L.

    “That the Gilenos enslaved Mexicans is an indication that they weren’t peaceful. . .”

    No. That the captive Mexicans were spared rather than killed is rather an indication that the Apaches sometimes made generous exceptions to their policy of killing the invading, thieving, killers in their midst.

    McCarthy was better read in western narratives than y’all seem to be. Sepich’s work is brilliant, but you could not expect Sepich to cite every instance where McCarthy used a historical reference. Some of these McCarthy must have internalized and they came out in a slightly altered context.

    That “Are you Texas?” quote, for instance, is straight from Hobbs’ narrative, WILD LIFE IN THE FAR WEST, where a Comanche asked that of Hobbs, Texans being considered the most hated white men on the plains. Hobbs denied it, as did his Texan companion, and their lives were thus spared.

    21 Jul 2015 at 12:46 pm #7341


    Don’t know how helpful this is but this link uses the term “Yuma-Apache”. It also says “Before 1866 and 1867, many of the Apache tribes were unknown and a large part of their country was a terra incognita.”


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